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Originally posted by Lucie Piché-Cantin:
Hi guys!

Since I don't want to have a discussion by myself, I am inviting you to guess the 10 laws of running injuries... Any brave souls amongst the group that would venture at least ONE of them?

It will be interesting to compare with what Dr Noakes' comments afterwards.

WHo's the bravest amongst the bravests????? Come on, guys! Venture a guess!


I'm sorry to say that I was unable to read the book of the month this month because Summer school has me reading three other books right now, but here's my guess (I don't have the book):

1.Running injuries are not an act of God.

2.Each running injury progresses through four grades.

3.Each running injury indicates that the athlete has reached the breakdown point.

4.Virtually all running injuries are curable.

5.X-rays and other sophisticated investigations are seldom necessary to diagnose running injuries.

6.Treat the cause, not the effect.

7.Rest is seldom the most appropriate treatment.

8.Never accept as a final option the advice of a non-runner.

9.Avoid the knife.

10.There is no definitive scientific evidence that running causes osteoarthritis in the recreational runner whose knees were normal when they started running.


"Anything that was ever put in front of me, I always looked at it as an opportunity, not as a chance to fail." - Kevin Schwantz
 
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I'm sorry to say that I was unable to read the book of the month this month because Summer school has me reading three other books right now, but here's my guess (I don't have the book):


Ya, right!!! OK, wise owl, you get a mark of 10 out of 10. Now, WITHOUT the book, can you explain each RULE in layman terms? Smiler

Also, from me, as a certified teacher to your teacher: tell him or her that I am giving you an exemption from reading one of your book! You're reading something much more important for your future! (Try it, it *MAY* work.)

Cheez, I wish I could give you a sticker! You really deserve one and you just made my day! Smiler

Congrats! Lucie

PS - Any other brave souls willing to add to this list? I can forward your recommendation directly to Dr Noakes if they're good!
 
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Originally posted by Mike Meyer:

I'm sorry to say that I was unable to read the book of the month this month because Summer school has me reading three other books right now, but here's my guess (I don't have the book):


Ya, right!!! OK, wise owl, you get a mark of 10 out of 10. Now, WITHOUT the book, can you explain each RULE in layman terms? Smiler

Also, from me, as a certified teacher to your teacher: tell him or her that I am giving you an exemption from reading one of your book! You're reading something much more important for your future! (Try it, it *MAY* work.)


I'll mention that to her. Smiler

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Cheez, I wish I could give you a sticker! You really deserve one and you just made my day! Smiler

Congrats! Lucie

PS - Any other brave souls willing to add to this list? I can forward your recommendation directly to Dr Noakes if they're good!



Alright well I am going to see what I can find out about the first three (google) and then I have to get back to studying.

1. I think this is pretty clear. There are reasons for running injuries they don't just happen. Factors might be the runners genetic build, training environment and training methods.

2. Alright so the four grades are(?): "Grade I: Causes pain only after exercise and is often felt only some hour after exercise has ceased. Grade II: Causes discomfort, not pain, during exercise but is insufficiently severe to reduce athlete's training or racing performance. Grade III: Causes more severe discomfort, recognized as pain, that limits the athlete’s training and interferes with racing performance. Grade IV: So severe that it prevents any attempts at racing."

"An example of a Grade IV injury would be a stress fracture. Noakes states that, 'athletes with stress fractures simply cannot run, however much they may wish to.'"

3. He's stating the obvious here so I think what he's trying to emphasize is: when you're training don't run through the pain of an injury, you've broken down there is a reason why. You need to stop and correct one of the three points from law number 1.

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Mike,

Google, hey? I didn't think of that one!!! Smiler I am impressed!

You're doing great. He refers very often to the genetic build of the runners, the training environmental factor (and this include your shoes or your boots as in the case of military) and the training methods (especially if you try to increase your mileage without a good plan).

Mike, keep up the GREAT woork.

And good luck with your teacher! Wink

Lucie
 
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And here is the rest of the story. Mike, I am repeating Rule 3 with comments from Dr Romanov.

Rule 3
Each injury indicates a breakdown point.
- Level of training, new shoes, different surfaces
According to Dr Romanov:
1) Don’t stop movement, redirect it;
2) Do not create leverages, avoid them;
3) Do not increase efforts, minimize them;
4) Do not fight gravity, assist it and manifest this in your movement.

Rule 4
Most true running injuries are curable.
-Other than:
1) Injuries that occur in runners with severe biomechanics abnormalities;
2) Injuries that result in severe degeneration of the internal structure of important tissues;
3) Injuries that occur in those who start running on abnormal joints.

Rule 5
Sophisticated methods are seldom necessary to diagnose injury.
-Most running injuries affect the soft tissue structures (tendons, ligaments, muscles) located near the major joints and cannot be seen on an X-ray.
-If injury persists: MRI and/or bone scan.

Rule 6
Treat the cause, not the effect.
-Physiotherapy, cortisone injections, surgery, chiropractic manipulation, homeopathic remedy are bound to fail if they do not correct what was discussed in rule 1.

Rule 7
Complete rest is seldom the most appropriate treatment.
-Rest does indeed cure the acute symptoms, but as with any therapy that does not aim to correct the cause of injury.

Rule 8
Never accept as final the advice of a non-runner (medical doctor or other).
-The person from whom you seek help should be a runner and must understand the importance of your running to you.

Rule 9
Avoid surgery.
-The obvious danger of surgery is that it is irreversible, what is removed at surgery cannot be returned.
-Consider arthroscopic surgery if indicated.

Rule 10
There is little evidence that recreational running causes osteoarthritis.
-The more elite athlete (who runs many km over their career) are more likely to develop this condition than the recreational jogger.

Source: Noakes, T. Running Injuries, p. 63-73; Romanov, N. Training Essays, p. 164.

Hey Mike, did you get an exemption? Smiler
 
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